Long-Distance Rune Casting

2:50am - Jim

How are you?

2:50am - Chris

If I were a weather forecast, I'd be dense fog. haha

2:51am - Jim

Elaborate

2:51am - Chris

Clearing around midday, followed by a sunny afternoon and a chilly night.

2:52am - Jim

Like a frigid night?

2:52am - Chris

I haven't touched the runes in a long time. Thought about one (Perth) and, reaching into the bag, drew it. It is time to cast them again.

2:52am - Jim

I'll go grab mine, they're in the other room.

2:52am - Chris

I don't have mine handy.

But what the hell, I'll get them.

2:53am - Jim

I have not pulled out my runes in probably ten years.

2:53am - Chris

I have mine

Let's do a one stone pull.

2:54am - Jim

Should I go to graduate school?

2:54am - Chris

Just one to get a feel how things are working.

2:54am - Jim

I'll pick three...

2:54am - Chris

No, don't ask it like that.

OK, if you do three.

What is your situation with regards to graduate school?

2:54am - Jim

It's not too late...one or three?

2:54am - Chris

What action should you take

and what should result

Do three

left to right or right to left

2:55am - Jim

left to right

2:55am - Chris

Blum is a right to left, me I like left to right, and I don't go for his rune order anyway.

2:56am - Jim

I picked up these stones at Lake Superior and painted them myself.

2:56am - Chris

OK, let's pick the first one. This is your situation regarding education right now.

2:56am - Jim

If L to R, which is first for interpretation?

I guess it doesn't matter. first draw is what it is.

situation regarding career...


2:57am - Chris

I have Fehu, the first rune in the sequence, the rune of cash flow, money, orginally meaning cattle.

Upright

2:57am - Jim

Looks like the letter C, but inverted.

What is it?

2:58am - Chris

Kenaz,

torch originally, the rune of light, could be interpreted as a lamp of knowledge.

I don't put a whole lot of stock in the inversion deal

2:59am - Jim

Is it supposed to look like this > or is that inverted?

2:59am - Chris

I would interpret the two as meaning your career situation regarding monetary wealth and knowledge

It looks normally like <

3:01 am - Jim

Second rune...Mannaz? It looks like the letter M, or W actually, I think this one is inverted as well.

3:02am - Chris

A W would be Ehwaz inverted. Ehwaz originally meant "horse".

3:02am - Jim

Horse.

3:03am - Chris

A horse inverted could be interpreted as blocked movement.

3:03am - Jim

Hmmm

3:03am - Chris

I have Uruz, the Aurochs, inverted

3:03am - Jim

What did you pull?

3:04am - Chris

Uruz, the second rune in the Futhark, is a rune of strength, inverted a rune of weakness.

3:04am - Jim

Aaaaaggghhh!

Is this where I am now?

3:04am - Chris

I would interpret it to mean that if you do not make the change, you will end up weaker for it.

3:04am - Jim

Or the outcome of an action?

3:04am - Chris

No, this is action itself.

3:05am - Jim

But it sounds like inaction...

3:05am - Chris

The whole 3 spread is based on the 3 Norns, past, present, future

Yeah, it is showing you what will happen if you DON'T act.

3:05am - Jim

Okay, okay, I've been putting off this thing I've wanted to do. I'll admit I've been a total pussy.

ready for three?

3:05am - Chris

Sure

3:06am - Jim

Here we go...

I don't know the name ofthis one. It looks like a fish, nose pointed upwards.

Do fish have noses?

3:06am - Chris

That is the last rune in the series, Othila

Interestingly enough, it is related to the first rune in the series, Fehu. Othila originally represented inherited weath, the homeland.

And you drew it upright.

3:08am - Jim

go on...

so I could get rich?

And save my homeland?

3:08am - Chris

It represents the stability of home

The security of wealth

I take it to mean, it you do nothing, your home and wealth will be secure.

Based, of course, on the middle rune

I drew Laguz, the lake, inversed.

3:10am - Jim

What does Laguz mean?

3:11am - Chris

Laguz upright signifies incertainty, whereas in this inverse position it indicates a tendency to ignore the obvious needs to maintain the status quo.

3:12am - Jim

I need clarification. I'm drunk, remember.

3:12am - Chris

It is telling you, I think, that if you do not act, you will continue to provide justifications for maintaining the status quo.

What do you think?

3:13am - Jim

Hmmmm...

But I've been doing that already.

3:14am - Chris

I have never done an internet double rune casting before.

this is interesting

3:14am - Jim

It would be a big hit for my family if I didn't work for four years.

3:14am - Chris

Yeah, but it says that if you don't take action, you will continue to do so.

But the inaction means security and stability at home

3:14am - Jim

I'm not getting much of a definitive answer here.

3:15am - Chris

You never will. haha

3:14am - Jim

Okay your turn

3:15am - Chris

I need to pee

3:15am - Jim

Ok your turn

3:15am - Chris

Just a moment

3:17am - Chris

OK

3:17am - Jim

Im back 2

3:17am - Chris

Let's think about my state of relationships, that is, my marriage.

3:17am - Jim

do you have a question?

3:18am - Chris

Situation, Action, Resolution

3:18am - Jim

That's the first one that come to my mind too. That's a big one for anybody.

3:18am - Chris

I know

I drew Ehwaz inversed, too.

Inversed horse, blocked movement

3:19am - Jim

mixing mine up...

Sowelu!

3:20am - Chris

The sun, wholeness

3:20am - Jim

Wholeness, the impulse towards self-actualization.

3:20am - Chris

That is interesting

3:21am - Jim

Blocked wholeness?

3:21am - Chris

Possibly, since we are dealing with two separate castings brought together.

That certainly seems right, but I don't want to influence the meaning.

3:22am - Jim

True.

3:22am - Chris

Let's see what the action would be.

3:22am - Jim

I got Hagalaz.

3:22am - Chris

I got Perth

reversed

Hagalaz is a rune of destruction

3:23am - Jim

change, freedom, liberation...

3:23am - Chris

Perth is a rune of birth, the unknown.

3:23am - Jim

WOW

3:23am - Chris

But reversed

3:24am - Chris

Reverse indicates take no chances, failure is likely.

Action being burning bridges, destruction, yet contradicted with taking no chances.

3:25am - Jim

Or it means that change comes with some hardship. No one said it would be easy.

3:25am - Chris

Hmmmm

Possible.

Let's go for 3

Wow, I got Hagalaz as the result!

3:26am - Jim

Regarding Perth reversed, each setback becomes a test of character.

3:26am - Chris

OK

I don't have the book with me.

I have blocked movement, setbacks, destruction, which of course sets the seed for rebirth.

It doesn't look like a cakewalk on this end.

What rune did you get?

3:28am - Jim

Mannaz, reversed.

3:28am - Chris

Mannaz, mankind, reversed

It could mean isolation from others.

3:29am - Jim

Or it cold mean isolation from your past self.

3:29am - Chris

The upright reading could be interpreted as community, but reversed would be isolation.

Sure

3:29am - Jim

Isolation from your past self as in breaking of old habits.

Rebirth, in a way.

3:30am - Chris

Yeah, a whole new life.

That which does not kill us makes us stronger.

Ouch.

In any case, it won't be easy.

3:30am - Jim

IF it does not kill us.

3:30am - Chris

Yeah

haha

Wow.

This has been really interesting.

3:31am - Jim

At Brocker's you said something very intriguiging, it was very late at night and we were on the back porch.

3:31am - Chris

Refresh my memory, please. haha

3:32am - Jim

I was falling asleep and you said something about "being too chicken-shit to change anything..." It seemed like a very candid thought.

3:33am - Chris

Sure

It is correct.

3:33am - Jim

I just pulled Raido.

Keep talking.

3:33am - Chris

Travel, journey

Originally, a horse cart

3:34am - Jim

and communication.

keep talking.

3:34am - Chris

Yeah, the old method of communication, long before internet, was messages relayed by horse cart or just horse.

3:35am - Jim

You're changing the subject...

3:36am - Chris

I remember how you and Guy once were talking about fear and greed being the only motivators for behavior; well, I am and have been gripped by fear for quite a while.

That is why I said the chicken-shit remark.

3:36am - Jim

yeah, you got to have balance, I think.

3:36am - Chris

I often thought, in the same sense of the alcoholic, that I'd have to hit rock bottom before I'd make a change.

I certainly hope not, but it may be so.

3:37am - Jim

I later learned that Guy was pretty accurate. We call it avant and avoidant behaviors.

3:37am - Chris

I don't seem to be in control of my own destiny.

3:37am - Jim

How low is rock bottom?

3:37am - Chris

I hope I don't find out!

3:38am - Jim

I just pulled the blank rune...

Not making this up...

3:38am - Chris

I am leaving mine be!

haha

3:40am - Jim

It's not the first time we've had this discussion. If you need us we are here, we are your wingmen and we've got you covered.

3:40am - Chris

A lot of people in the Norse tradition discount the blank rune, since it is not a part of the 24 rune futhark, but I like the idea of uncertainty, the unknown.

the void

I appreciate that. You guys are great.

3:41am - Jim

these are days/weeks/months/years you will never get back, and if you are not happy, fucking change it!

3:41am - Chris

I appreciate your counsel.

I should retire, it is almost 4 am here.

3:41am - Jim

It's nothing you didn't know already.

Why are you up so late?

3:42am - Chris

Yes, but the runes often reveal insights that we just don't recognize without them.

3:42am - Jim

One more...

3:42am - Chris

Jim, thanks so much. Let's cast some runes again soon!

3:43am - Jim

Eihwaz

3:43am - Chris

The yew tree, Yggdrasil

The God Ull

3:43am - Jim

Defense.

3:43am - Chris

Sure, the bow.

I should let down my defenses.

3:44am - Jim

Enough said.

Nighty night.

3:44am - Chris

Take care, and have a great early autumn weekend!

Good night!

3:45am - Jim

Hail Stingray.

3:45am - Chris

Hail Stingray!